US citizens line up for food stamps

Millions of US citizens rely on food stamps

This is so sad!! They cant afford food, how much more if they get sick!! That makes you angry that republicans are holding what is due to this people worrying about how much money they will lost if the health care will get approve! Too much corruption and Gzreed!

Can the afford cigarettes?

I’d like to know what percent of those on food stamps also purchase cigarettes and alcohol. Before we start crying too much about about these

Reminisent to the republican 'joey'

The joey speaks with the tired old republican mouth blaming the welfare folks. Beer and Cigarettes! Oh my god!!!

But how do republicans deal with other 'abuses'? Abuses from torture to causing Our Current Depression? Causes like the Wars, Enrons, Madorffs, WallStreet Insurance Swindles, etc.,etc.,... !

The answer is short and sweet to the joeys' BAIL OUTS OF COURSE! Keep the bonuses flowing! Its the American Interests! Beer and cigarettes?... hell let the poor drink dirty water and smoke weeds!

fair is fair in the cells of messianics!

WAKE UP AMERICA

Little by little by not so little. The government is trying to make us all dependents.

God damn it, stand up for yourself and stop taking these handouts.

Liberal fool, girlyjihad

BAIL OUTS OF COURSE!

Obama’s solution to everything evidently. How’s it working out? The welfare seekers numbers haven’t shrunk, have they? Unemployment continues unabated. Nice going liberal fools!

Millions of US citizens rely on food stamps.

Republican US Congress & Senate: Sometime American people have to realize Obama and (D) Grandma Speaker Nancy Pelosi are the Democrats to let the average American households down on our dignity, we support the 2013 US President DAN QUAYLE’s White House will RETURN the politics to your local city’s mayor’s political power on budget. Ask about how you manage a family-budget of your salary if the city’s public transportation fares like bus fare, subway train fare, ferry fare are all going to increase fare hiked by the worker-unions; homeowner association fee hiked crazy every year; later on you have to share the Obama’s Democrat’s Health Insurance/Care bill of the Public Option to others, a little bit more budget to this, a little bit more on that, an average middle-class households' income really not much left to put food on table.

Rebooting the Debate

This guy nailed it!!!!
From the American thinker.

By Michael D. Harbison
A former college roommate once gave me a very succinct piece of wisdom, passed on from his father, when he viewed me engaging in an ideological debate. The advice? “Never argue with a pig. It will waste your time, and it will just annoy the pig."

I am now observing how conservatives willingly cede the defining moments of a debate by accepting, and even parroting, the terminology of the Left. As long as we continue to let the left frame the argument, the picture we attempt to paint will not matter. When the debate is defined by their vernacular (global warming, gun control, health care, and all the rest), we sustain an uphill battle in our quest to have our views understood. Our words should define our beliefs inasmuch as the Liberal terminology defines the beliefs of the Left.

For example:

Liberal Phraseology: “Global warming," or “global climate change."

You mean: “The theory of man-made global climate change," or “The theory of mankind’s interference in the Earth’s natural temperature fluctuations."

The operative word here is “theory," because regardless of what non-scientists like Al Gore say, the debate isn’t over. There is no consensus. The temperature has been changing since the beginning of time.

Liberal Phraseology: “Greenhouse gases."

You mean: “Carbon dioxide — the essential ingredient for all plant life."

Where are the tree-huggers when you need them?

Liberal Phraseology: “Gun control."

You mean: “Disarming the law-abiding populace."

The reason the Founders endowed us with the Second Amendment was to protect us from a tyrannical government.

Liberal Phraseology: “Universal health care."

You mean: “Access to affordable health insurance."

We have the best health care system in the world. What we need is more competition among insurers and cost effective group plans.

Liberal Phraseology: “Equal rights for ___________."

You mean: “Preferential treatment for ___________."

If any member of society gets preferences, it cannot be considered “equal." If we substitute the word “white” or “man” for __________, would it still be considered “equal”?

Liberal Phraseology: “Public assistance programs," or “government programs."

You mean: “Taxpayer-subsidized entitlement programs," or “taxpayer-funded appropriation."

Rule Number One: The government has no money. They are not a revenue-generating entity. The government is a drain on prosperity. They reallocate resources. How much more money would you have in your pocket if you got a 50% tax cut?

Liberal Phraseology: “The plight of the homeless."

You mean: “People who are victims of their own poor choices, with the exception of the mentally incompetent."

People have learned that they don’t have to be responsible for themselves if the nanny state continues to bail them out. And go ahead and concede that the bank bailouts are no different.

So when you hear a Liberal (or even a Moderate) use the Liberal phraseology, just chime in with “Oh, you mean..." They will have no argument, and you have rebooted the debate on your terms.

Page Printed from: http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/11/rebooting_the_debate.html at November 30, 2009 - 01:31:02 PM EST

Fig leaf garden accountant vs olive branch garden accountant

salaam,
So when pickens upon fruits of life which did it choose in LIFE of Knowledgeable accountants?
feeamanellaah

secret slave

secret slave;171264:
salaam,
So when pickens upon fruits of life which did it choose in LIFE of Knowledgeable accountants?
feeamanellaah

I don’t know what you are inhaling, injecting or ingesting, but whatever it is, it isn’t assisting you in making sense.

NeoCons

Blame it on George W Bush and his neo-con cronies, for bankrupting the country. With an estimated $11 billion month war tab, very we will need international food aid

US Food Stamps

Wake up America, take responsibility for your actions, don’t make excuses by blaming others who are endeavouring to control your life and destiny. Passing the buck and blame to governments is an easy copout. Get an education and move on.

Reboot! Sure I will be very happy to debate your reboot!

Pick your reboot and post the argument as you see fit!

Then make your opening statement!

I am waiting!

Could we reboot your brain and run a logic test?

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Pick your reboot and post the argument as you see fit!

Then make your opening statement!

I am waiting!

I know how about the fact Man Made Global warming is complete fraud.

Feel free to read http://www.bignewsnetwork.com/forum/showthread.php?t=56462

and prove you have been rebooted and passed a logic test.
As I remember you fell for the man made global warming new religion fraud hook line and sinker.

Coward!

I agreed to your point! So go ahead and reboot, you frame the debate! Take whatever point you want I will be glad to respond! and debate your statement with my statement to your words.

Either you believe in your post or you don’t, and if you don’t believe them, did you just post nonsense? Or, are you the coward I believe you are?

The debate will tell the 'story'! I accepted your point, reboot and frame the debate!

I am still waiting! Maybe all you know is that you must say bad things regarding some bad man, but here’s your chance to pick the topic and frame the discussion! Your words some like knees shaking.

I believe I did frame a question

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I agreed to your point! So go ahead and reboot, you frame the debate! Take whatever point you want I will be glad to respond! and debate your statement with my statement to your words.

Either you believe in your post or you don’t, and if you don’t believe them, did you just post nonsense? Or, are you the coward I believe you are?

The debate will tell the 'story'! I accepted your point, reboot and frame the debate!

I am still waiting! Maybe all you know is that you must say bad things regarding some bad man, but here’s your chance to pick the topic and frame the discussion! Your words some like knees shaking.

I even posted a link to the topic!
Man made global warming is a lie and you fell for it!
Do you still believe in man made warming with it’s liberty stealing carbon tax nonsense!
See my post above your name calling diatribe.
Obviously your not properly rebooted.


As far as food stamps go...stop paying farmers to mow down their crops invest in food banks.
I recently decided to start volunteering at a local food bank.
I now make up care packages and pass out donated food.

Instead of throwing trillions to wall street and bankers Obungler and Bush should have invested in kick starting jobs.
Roads crumbling, trees need planting, roads are covered in garbage and graffitti, houses need painting, food needs to be grown, water treatment and infrastructure is crumbling!
Instead he is creating a million man private army using a division of Americorps.

http://www.newsmax.com/kessler/americorps_volunteers/2009/04/09/201594.html

Don’t create a tattletail force just put these people to work helping out the communities not enforcing Obama rules.


Hell with what the two idiot and chiefs spent on banks and wall street we could have paid off all the toxic debt.
Instead Goldman Sachs is reporting record earnings and paying out billions in bonuses!
Cheap loans are killing our retirees.

Republican idiots!!

No wonder why this country is a mess, full of racist and hatred, the greediness and selfishness. Am glad when i came here there is democrats to balance the negative perception of this kind of Americans! Working here as nurse makes me feel terrible how their system works! I realized I am richer than most of my american co-nurses coz they owe a lot of college loans and I dont! I feel terrible that lots of Americans cant afford health care that is being enjoyed by billions of people in most developed countries and even the third world. I even feel sad to think America is rich but I realized its all debt/loans. I came to think we are even richer, to think coming here is just fine work and month vacation home is luxurios, I encourage my co-nurses to come with me next time and see how it feels to have the luxury that 90% of americans doesnt get here in the US.
Most of all when i came I observed that their only luxury is beer and football, At home is a 2 hour full body massage,Foot Spa,very live entertainment and few days with friends partying all day and night in the beach that i know after it, i dont have to worry about debt coz I can afford it just lke anybody else in my country.
I know Republicans wont like me but hey its a sad reality they wont accept coz they are a bunch of haters,racist,Selfish, jealous etc Idiots!! Will prove it from the next comments.

Torpekal,let me know how could I get to your world of fantacy. What political party you belong to and I might join in. I will take Galljdaj with me so he can enjoy a good time without bitching and moaning about something. May be you can offer him the 12 virgin blonde young woman and kill him in bed just sex pleasure with the angel of beauty and total satisfqaction. Wow.

Republican idiots versus rights stealing big government socialist leftist Democrats?

torpeka!;171373:
No wonder why this country is a mess, full of racist and hatred, the greediness and selfishness. Am glad when i came here there is democrats to balance the negative perception of this kind of Americans! Working here as nurse makes me feel terrible how their system works! I realized I am richer than most of my american co-nurses coz they owe a lot of college loans and I dont! I feel terrible that lots of Americans cant afford health care that is being enjoyed by billions of people in most developed countries and even the third world. I even feel sad to think America is rich but I realized its all debt/loans. I came to think we are even richer, to think coming here is just fine work and month vacation home is luxurios, I encourage my co-nurses to come with me next time and see how it feels to have the luxury that 90% of americans doesnt get here in the US.
Most of all when i came I observed that their only luxury is beer and football, At home is a 2 hour full body massage,Foot Spa,very live entertainment and few days with friends partying all day and night in the beach that i know after it, i dont have to worry about debt coz I can afford it just lke anybody else in my country.
I know Republicans wont like me but hey its a sad reality they wont accept coz they are a bunch of haters,racist,Selfish, jealous etc Idiots!! Will prove it from the next comments.

You are very correct that most Americans are living on borrowed money!
What country are you from?
What Socialist utopia?
You talk about others greed yet you go on and on about Spas and drunken partying.
Does the person giving you your two hour massage also live your pampered brand of lifestyle?
My bet is your full of crap.
Most Americans do a lot of living on the weekends our 40-70 hour work weeks make most of us to tired to do much until then.

Don’t confuse George Bush as a conservative he was a Neo-Republican.
Republicanism is a branding that has been damaged.
Conservative values are what made America great.

Conservative Values
“A Time For Choosing”
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There is a great problem today with the general public understanding Conservative values. They don’t seem to understand the true definition of Conservatism. And, today’s Republican Party is certainly not helping the matter any, for one is hard-pressed to find a Reagan Conservative these days — at least amongst politicians.

Up until 1964, former President Reagan, one of the greatest Presidents we have ever seen in this nation, was a Democrat. This is not as surprising as it may seem to many people today. Ronald Reagan had been in radio and in Hollywood before he discovered his true calling of politics (he became the governor of California from 1967 through 1975). We who have values today know that the mental disease known as liberalism has long since infested Hollywood and the mass media. Reagan in his younger years was obviously influenced by this trend amongst those within his profession. But, he was a man of strong intelligence, and eventually he started to check the facts. And the facts about how his nation was being run disturbed him so deeply that he couldn’t remain on the side of the Democrats, and he became a Republican, although he still insisted throughout his political life that Americans' issues were beyond those of “left” and “right”. His Liberal Democrat opponents never got tired of mocking this idea of his, and they aren’t tired of mocking it now even more than four years after his death.
CONSERVATIVE VALUES VS LIBERAL AND OTHER VALUES

Frankly, let’s be real. Conservative values are better because they work. Conservative values are about resisting any urges to make too-rapid changes, essentially. Conservative values might be better described as “classical” or “neoclassical” values. And this could be summed up by a couplet from the great Neoclassical poem “Essay on Man” by Alexander Pope: “Be not the first by which the new is tried, Nor the last to set the old aside."
Ronald Reagan - A Time for Choosing

An address given to the Republican National Convention on October 27,1964.

Liberals seem to believe that money grows on trees. Of course, it’s like Cullen Hightower would say: There’s always somebody who makes too much money and is taxed too little. And the thing of it is, it’s always somebody else. So that money tree somehow always seems to be growing in a Conservative’s yard...and, of course, that Conservative somehow stole it and now uses it for unjust ends, such as putting food on his family’s table and maybe buying himself a new sedan car (if the Liberal had the money tree, he would buy a new BMW and then ask other people to help him make the payments).

Reagan Conservatives are those who don’t compromise their values. The Republican party needs that these days...yet it seems difficult to find them. Republicans also need someone who can actually orate — someone who is not like a McCain. The Democrats seem to find plenty of skilled salesmen for their cause...but the Republicans are the ones who need them.

But, let me try to do that for you here, at least to an extent. What are Conservative values?

* Conservative values are backed up by historical precedent, logically derived principles, and prudence (practicality). Conservatives love facts. Liberals, Socialists, Communists, and Islamic fundamentalist terrorists hate facts, because to them facts are pernicious things that get in the way of a good ideology — and their irresponsible actions.
* Speaking of facts, anyone who checks into them will fairly quickly learn that it’s Conservatives who make up the intellectual party in politics. Liberals co-opted — that is, stole — that concept in order to grab power.
* Conservatives understand that outside of running the military and other related protective services, the government, either federal or state, simply cannot achieve what private, capitalist free market based industry achieves. Government is not reason, government is not the embodiment of any higher moral authority. Government at its very best is a necessary evil. At its worst, it is completely evil. But it is never, ever rational or moral. It is a force. And that is why it must be kept strictly limited and in check.
* Conservatives understand that any “liberal” values must be expressed privately. They cannot be ensconced as federal laws or economic ideals. They don’t work in that way. If everyone is free, how can you force a large amount of people to accept freedom? You can’t. It’s really very simple.
* Conservatives understand that you don’t get something for nothing. When the government increases spending and entitlement programs and “bailouts”, it is just stealing money from private citizens — and using that money in ways that are inefficient at best and downright harmful at worst.

Conservatives don’t typically tell the sexiest stories about economics and politics. They just tell the true ones.

Well now! I feel you don't know what it is to debate...

..., however, we can begin with your post 'question'. Since I have ceded you first choice post your side of the debate and make your opening statement. I will then accept the side you have left for me and make an opening statement.

Would you like to set any special rules?

One Point for clarity

Please verify you have framed the 'question' in your glorified republican rebooted format.

And we can begin, waiting!

Well Our lil cowardly debater on Conservative(ness)...

seems to have choosen to run and sorta hide! Instead of the debate post his childest nonsense about what conservativism is! and of course he speaks for liberalism also as his selfstyle 'expertise' allows him to do. That expertise being messianics.

His 'conservatism' says liberals can’t debate, simply word things improperly, so given the chance to prove his statements, what does he do? Runs away and glorifies conservatism/messianics in his post debate 'solo dance of veils for conservatives' in his post of 10:21 am!

He doesn’t even the courage to announce he is quiting! Just runs away after making his messianic claims! No evidence! No logic! just more of his silly claims. Claims that drip with mama’s good boy pats on his lil head!

Such is what conservatives do when faced with someone that can stand up and fight back! And when Truth will be shown !!!

Or you don't understand the qyestion posed as usual.

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seems to have choosen to run and sorta hide! Instead of the debate post his childest nonsense about what conservativism is! and of course he speaks for liberalism also as his selfstyle 'expertise' allows him to do. That expertise being messianics.

His 'conservatism' says liberals can’t debate, simply word things improperly, so given the chance to prove his statements, what does he do? Runs away and glorifies conservatism/messianics in his post debate 'solo dance of veils for conservatives' in his post of 10:21 am!

He doesn’t even the courage to announce he is quiting! Just runs away after making his messianic claims! No evidence! No logic! just more of his silly claims. Claims that drip with mama’s good boy pats on his lil head!

Such is what conservatives do when faced with someone that can stand up and fight back! And when Truth will be shown !!!

I asked a very very simple question about what you believe which is being shredded in the light of revelation.
Do you still claim to be part of the man made global warming crowd?
Do you understand global warming is being used to destroy America from with in and usher in a global tax to be paid to the UN.
That is the debate yet you refuse as usual to take part in it.
As far as fighting back you have yet to prove me wrong.
You have yet to take any ownership of any errant belief proved wrong nor engage in open honest debate as usual.

Demonstrate your great republican wording!

Frame the debate question!

PICK YOUR SIDE, AND MAKE YOUR OPENING STATEMENT!

Its clear your afraid! Its clear your a coward!

Your the one that claim the nonsense about conservatives know how to frame the debate, and liberals are simply liars!

Now put up lil boy, MAMA’S NOT HERE TO PAT YOU ON THE HEAD!

Either you can or you can’t. I believe you won’t and its cowardice! You will prove what you are !

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Frame the debate question!

PICK YOUR SIDE, AND MAKE YOUR OPENING STATEMENT!

Its clear your afraid! Its clear your a coward!

Your the one that claim the nonsense about conservatives know how to frame the debate, and liberals are simply liars!

Now put up lil boy, MAMA’S NOT HERE TO PAT YOU ON THE HEAD!

Either you can or you can’t. I believe you won’t and its cowardice! You will prove what you are !

It’s clear you can’t properly and correctly spell or speak English. You spin more than a gay ballet dancer. LOLAY dimwit!

Copy coward number three speaks...

...and of course the lil coward#3, that disgraces a fine peoples of courage, spills forth his best that two copy cells can produce.

The bad man making the panties squeeze the lil head too tight? Too bad... , go tell your mama.

Yet again!

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...and of course the lil coward#3, that disgraces a fine peoples of courage, spills forth his best that two copy cells can produce.

The bad man making the panties squeeze the lil head too tight? Too bad... , go tell your mama.

Question posed yet you ignore the fact it was posed!
So your idea of “fighting back” is to ignore when your wrong confuse the points namely obfuscate and name call?
You then call another poster coward who has properly identified that you engage in intellectual dishonesty!
Your either very very senile or the biggest coward on this board.
You KNOW your wrong JUST admit being wrong and move on.
As always people of your ilk are not capable of looking past your own errant belief system even when empirical data is shown to you.
That is called EGO.
You should seek help before it’s to late you are after all in your late 70’s at a minimum and you have a lot to atone for.
I hope you don’t have any kids or grand kids because they are sure to be all messed up with you as an example.
Sad really sad.

So that's your copout!

No Framing the debate question!

No selecting your position choice!

No opening statement from you!

That’s a quit in any debate. What is only 99.9 % sure is whether your a full coward or mama won’t let you debate! thereby making you stand in as the coward.

My those lil panties must be getting very tight omn the two cells! Copouts are running away lil boy! Post all you want, won’t change those dirty panties your wearing! Your smell remains with you!

So much for republican 'framing the debate question'...

... . History is very clear with republicans displays of just throwing mud in the air and supplying elephant size and smell gases!

All the rebulican leaders will tolerate are messianic believers!

Speaking of gaseous emminations.

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... . History is very clear with republicans displays of just throwing mud in the air and supplying elephant size and smell gases!

All the rebulican leaders will tolerate are messianic believers!

I smell a very large back peddle on your part with a hefty does of attack with a very large amount or projection as usual.
Typical liberal nonsense a question was posed MY stance is obvious and you refuse to take part in the discussion.
As I said typical.
You don’t want honest debate or rational discussion.
You want unfettered access for your propaganda hit pieces with no input from differing view points.
As I said typical.
The article in question has framed the debate correctly you just can’t handle open ended debate period.
I believe your Cuban handlers are disappointed in your ability to squelch dissent from people with the ability to rationally look at your posts.

The cowardice you display is 'obvious', but that is not a debate item!

Nothing in a debate is obvious! You cowardly will not take up your responsibilty! Your the claimer of republican superiority! Produce or the smell is where it belongs, your dirty pants and your cowardice. And of course your copout, as I accepted your claim to 'frame the republican debate words'!

Either you can and do or your simply a loud mouthed coward!

I am waiting for the debate to begin! Nothing from you to open your republican superiority debate! That is fact! Frame the debate ! pick your side, and make your opening statement!

Or keep up your cowardice, You prove yourself and what you are with every post!

A loud mouthed gutless coward! can’t even frame a debate question, and you a midget mental expert trainee!

Seems Girliejihad meant to post to himself so I fixed his post top mean what he has so far proven.

projection:
Nothing in a debate is obvious! You cowardly will not take up your responsibilty! I’m the claimer of superiority I call everyone cowardly, twisted panties and uncle toms! Produce or the smell is where it belongs, my dirty pants and my cowardice. And of course I copout, as I HAVE NOT accepted an argument claim to 'frame a rational debate!

I’m simply a loud mouthed coward!

I am sidestepping the debate because I have no cogent thought in my empty head! I have no rational response to the fact global warming caused by mankind is not occuring! Why debate I have no ability to prove my own thoughts without stealing content from Cuba or vENEZUELA! That is fact! Please don’t ask me to read a question and form a thought of my own!

I will keep up my cowardice, You prove yourself and what you are with every post an honest person capable of seeing a lie and a liar for what they are and Al Global warming Gore is a liar and a fraud!

I’m A loud mouthed gutless coward! can’t even frame a debate question, and am a midget mental expert trainee!

Debate question to you!


Man made global warming is based on junk science and worse fraud yes or no!
Look up climantgate in google!

My answer is YES!
Read it and weep!

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2009/12/the_lame_leftist_talking_point.html

http://www.infowars.com/climategate-outrage-explodes-as-carbon-tax-agenda-collapses/

http://www.infowars.com/climategate-deniers-in-denial/

http://www.infowars.com/inhofe-requests-hearings-on-climategate/

Al Gore is a fraud!

Yes.

Will Girlijihad contimue the bullcrap he has been spouting?

Of course the answer is yes hios ego demands he can never be wrong!
Is he mentally ill?

Yes!


Enquiring minds want to know will girliejihad answer truthfully or will he bloviate more!
If you don’t answer the above don’t bother responding because it will prove who the REAL coward is!

Well now, looks like I twisted the panties boy into 'trying'!

Reading his debate question I have to wonder if he’s down to one cell! But if that’s republican framing of the question I accept the example.

Clearly the lil boy is taking the yes side of his framed question, leaving me the no side, which I ave accepted.

His poorly constructed opening statement says, 'al gore is a fraud' and that is about all he has said he’s going to Prove! Like if gore is a fraudester that somehow makes science junk!

Since I am on the no side of an extremely poorly framed question, that leaves out the most important consideration thereby actually having something to question, 'is global warming happening?' and, ' Is man contributing to the warming?' Plus, even if gore is a fraud proving or disproving that has no bearing on the question, so I plan to ignore that point its a waste of time in a debate. I have no intent on citing al gore. I will focus on what science has produced regarding what Man has produced in terms of pollutants and experiements conducted on various polutant effects on temperature increases or decreases. It is my intent to show that Man and his endeavors are not neutral, as the obvious intent of the republican framed question implies!

This completes my opening statement, and I turn the debate over to my republican conservative framer of questions. You may make your attempt at proving your 'man made global warming is fradulant science!

Post away lil man!

= )

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Reading his debate question I have to wonder if he’s down to one cell! But if that’s republican framing of the question I accept the example.

Clearly the lil boy is taking the yes side of his framed question, leaving me the no side, which I ave accepted.

His poorly constructed opening statement says, 'al gore is a fraud' and that is about all he has said he’s going to Prove! Like if gore is a fraudester that somehow makes science junk!

Since I am on the no side of an extremely poorly framed question, that leaves out the most important consideration thereby actually having something to question, 'is global warming happening?' and, ' Is man contributing to the warming?' Plus, even if gore is a fraud proving or disproving that has no bearing on the question, so I plan to ignore that point its a waste of time in a debate. I have no intent on citing al gore. I will focus on what science has produced regarding what Man has produced in terms of pollutants and experiements conducted on various polutant effects on temperature increases or decreases. It is my intent to show that Man and his endeavors are not neutral, as the obvious intent of the republican framed question implies!

This completes my opening statement, and I turn the debate over to my republican conservative framer of questions. You may make your attempt at proving your 'man made global warming is fradulant science!

Post away lil man!

Wow an almost cogent well thought out post.
Bravo!
A round of golf claps to you...No sarcasm intended.
Conservative by the way Republicanism lost me several years ago.


Since you obviously fear clicking links(nothing elses makes sense) or you live in a country that censors the truth!

Upon perusing the searchable archive of the online data, most of which consists of e-mails being exchanged between a small coterie of climate-change charlatans who presume to call themselves “scientists," it soon becomes very clear why the anthropogenic global warmingâ��climate-change industry has been so deeply and unscientifically secretive about the data they have used to reach their conclusions of imminent climate-based apocalypse. First, the data simply does not support their conclusions. Second, they know the data doesn’t support their conclusions. Consider this amazing admission by Kevin Trenberth, head of the Climate ****ysis Section at the National Center for Atmospheric Research and a lead author of the 2001 and 2007 Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change’s Scientific Assessment of Climate Change:

“The fact is that we can’t account for the lack of warming at the moment and it is a travesty that we can’t. The CERES data published in the August (Bulletin of the American Meteorological Society) 09 supplement on 2008 shows there should be even more warming: but the data are surely wrong."

(Column continues below)




The degree of intellectual and scientific malfeasance is simply astounding, and will shock even those who have been anthropogenic global warming�climate-change skeptics from the beginning. Jay Currie has chronicled how the e-mails offer substantive evidence of the following:

1. the suppression of data
2. the destruction of data subject to FOI requests

3. the organized subversion of the peer-review process

4. the blacklisting of a scientific journal for political reasons

Even worse, it is clear that the fundamental reason underlying their Chicken Little approach to the matter is not scientific at all, but ideological. As John Hindraker of Powerline points out, what these “scientists” are doing is politics, not science, as they are cherry-picking a few useful facts to reach a predetermined conclusion instead of simply collecting the observable evidence, examining all of it, and only then reaching conclusions. By their own admission, their science is “mission-oriented." But what is that mission? Another e-mail provides the answer:

“One particular thing you said â�� and we agreed â�� was about the IPCC reports and the broader climate negotiations were working to the globalization agenda driven by organizations like the WTO."

As climate skeptics such as Ian Wishart, author of “Air Con," have warned, the hacked e-mails indicate that the climate-change industry is merely the pseudoscientific tool of the international fascists presently ensconced in various national governments who are seeking to evade the limits of national sovereignty by creating a post-democratic system of global governance. The fake science is supposed to provide an emergency which will justify the establishment of a system of global taxation and regulation, which will provide the means for the transfer of power from the sovereign nations to supranational organizations which have been formed to regulate economic and political activity in the name of saving the planet.

Ein Klima, ein Reich, ein Führer

Even if the science behind the climate-change industry had been legitimate, it defies all reason and human history to attempt to argue that the only way to save the planet is to convert mankind into the hapless slaves of a global dictatorship. And since, as the Climate Research Unit correspondence shows, the science is rife with fraud and fiction, there is simply no excuse for viewing “climate change” as anything but the shameless propaganda arm of those who wish to crown themselves the kings of Gaia.

The global warming New World order religion and agenda is running off the rails.

More on Al global Warming Gore

Weather Channel Founder Blasts Network; Claims It Is 'Telling Us What to Think'
TWC founder and global warming skeptic advocates suing Al Gore to expose 'the fraud of global warming.'

By Jeff Poor
Business & Media Institute
3/5/2008 9:00:18 AM



The Weather Channel has lost its way, according to John Coleman, who founded the channel in 1982.



Coleman told an audience at the 2008 International Conference on Climate Change on March 3 in New York that he is highly critical of global warming alarmism.



�The Weather Channel had great promise, and that�s all gone now because they�ve made every mistake in the book on what they�ve done and how they�ve done it and it�s very sad,� Coleman said. �It�s now for sale and there�s a new owner of The Weather Channel will be announced � several billion dollars having changed hands in the near future. Let�s hope the new owners can recapture the vision and stop reporting the traffic, telling us what to think and start giving us useful weather information.�



The Weather Channel has been an outlet for global warming alarmism. In December 2006, The Weather Channel�s Heidi Cullen argued on her blog that weathercasters who had doubts about human influence on global warming should be punished with decertification by the American Meteorological Society.



Coleman also told the audience his strategy for exposing what he called �the fraud of global warming.� He advocated suing those who sell carbon credits, which would force global warming alarmists to give a more honest account of the policies they propose.



�[I] have a feeling this is the opening,� Coleman said. �If the lawyers will take the case � sue the people who sell carbon credits. That includes Al Gore. That lawsuit would get so much publicity, so much media attention. And as the experts went to the witness stand and testified, I feel like that could become the vehicle to finally put some light on the fraud of global warming.�



Earlier at the conference Lord Christopher Monckton, a policy adviser to former Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher, told an audience that the science will eventually prevail and the �scare� of global warming will go away. He also said the courts were a good avenue to show the science.





Stuart James and Paul Detrick also contributed to this report.

How money anad power lust fuel the global warming lie.

Fraud.
Lies!
Scientific book cooking and worse destruction of public data!




Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet.com
Tuesday, November 3, 2009

The New York Times has lifted the lid on how Al Gore stands to benefit to the tune of billions of dollars if the carbon tax proposals he is pushing come to fruition in the United States, while documenting how he has already lined his pockets on the back of exaggerated fearmongering about global warming.

As is to be expected, the article is largely a whitewash and takes an apologist stance in defense of Gore.

However, the NY Times� John M. Broder does reveal how one of the companies Gore invested in, Silver Spring Networks, recently received a contract worth $560 million dollars from the Energy Department to install �smart meters� in people�s homes that record (and critics fear could eventually regulate) energy usage.

�Kleiner Perkins and its partners, including Mr. Gore, could recoup their investment many times over in coming years,� states the report, highlighting the fact that Gore is �well positioned to profit from this green transformation, if and when it comes.�

�Critics, mostly on the political right and among global warming skeptics, say Mr. Gore is poised to become the world�s first �carbon billionaire,� profiteering from government policies he supports that would direct billions of dollars to the business ventures he has invested in,� writes Broder.

Since he left office, Gore�s personal net worth has skyrocketed on the back of his advocacy for global warming issues and the financial dividends this has reaped. Gore�s assets totaled less than $2 million in 2001 and although he refuses to give a figure for his current net worth, a recent single investment of $35 million in Capricorn Investment Group, a private equity fund, illustrates just how fast Gore has enriched himself from his climate change bandwagon.

The Times report notes how Gore �has a stake in the world�s pre-eminent carbon credit trading market.� As we reported back in March, before he became President Barack Obama also helped fund the profiteers of the carbon taxation program that he is now seeking to implement as law.

The Chicago Climate Exchange (CCX) has direct ties to both Al Gore and Maurice Strong, two figures intimately involved with a long standing movement to use the theory of man made global warming as a mechanism for profit and social engineering. Gore�s investment company, Generation Investment Management, which sells carbon offset opportunities, is the largest shareholder of CCX.

Maurice Strong, who is regularly credited as founding father of the modern environmental movement, serves on the board of directors of CCX. Strong was a leading initiate of the Earth Summit in the early 90s, where the theory of global warming caused by CO2 generated by human activity was most notably advanced.

Both Strong and Gore come from the Club of Rome clique, who in their 1991 Report, �The First Global Revolution� openly admitted how they were planning to exploit the contrived hoax of global warming in order to further their agenda.

�In searching for a new enemy to unite us, we came up with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming, water shortages, famine and the like would fit the bill. All these dangers are caused by human intervention, and it is only through changed attitudes and behavior that they can be overcome. The real enemy then, is humanity itself.,� they wrote.

Gore�s defense against claims that he is peddling fearmongering about global warming to get filthy rich, and one dutifully supported by the NY Times� whitewash report, is that he is simply putting his money where his mouth is.

However, Gore�s insistence that he is walking the walk, not just talking the talk, doesn�t seem to extend to his own private life in the context of energy conservation and CO2 emissions. While lecturing the world about reducing CO2 emissions and saving energy, Gore�s own mansion uses 20 times the energy of the average American home.

In February 2007, the Tennessee Center for Policy Research revealed that the gas and electric bills for the former vice president�s 20-room home and pool house devoured nearly 221,000 kilowatt-hours in 2006, more than 20 times the national average of 10,656 kilowatt-hours. These figures were not disputed by Gore.

�If this were any other person with $30,000-a-year in utility bills, I wouldn�t care,� said the Center�s 27-year-old president, Drew Johnson. �But he tells other people how to live and he�s not following his own rules.�

The clips below, taken from Alex Jones� new documentary Fall Of The Republic, expose how Al Gore serves as the front man for the global carbon tax cap and trade scheme, which is designed to bankrupt the United States and drastically lower the living standards of the American people, while introducing nightmare levels of regulation and bureaucracy into their everyday lives

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..., stating either more to come or I am finished posting my proofs. I would like to know when its my turn. Its debating remember.

Whats clear, my opponent does not know what debate is!

Seems like he has run away again. Of course this is a guess, and its based on his failure to turn over the debate to my turn to present. He has not stated numerous points that are debate critetia, but the one I await is, he has presented his proofs for his side of the issue he framed, the republican conservative way of framing questions issues and the debate.

I am waiting for my turn!

Since the lil boy has turned coward again... .

The BBC Website has an interesting Article Today that is pertinent to the Framed debate question of the republican cowards! The following link is to the article:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_depth/sci_tech/2009/copenhagen/8386319.stm

Besides presenting 800000 years of evidence that clearly shows the abnormal spike of something else going on , than the claimed framed question people are claiming!

Additionally there are a wealth of references to answer many questions and hard to find data.

Well worth an honest investigation!

Your using data now being proven to be falsified! Again google climantgate

The site is not allowing my posts to be posted so if there is a lag of more then a day or two they probably disallowed my post.

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The BBC Website has an interesting Article Today that is pertinent to the Framed debate question of the republican cowards! The following link is to the article:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_depth/sci_tech/2009/copenhagen/8386319.stm

Besides presenting 800000 years of evidence that clearly shows the abnormal spike of something else going on , than the claimed framed question people are claiming!

Additionally there are a wealth of references to answer many questions and hard to find data.

Well worth an honest investigation!

Am I to assume your done?
Anything to do with the Copenhagen accord should be very carefully looked at as they are using fasle or massaged data to come to the point of forcing Carbon taxes upon the people of the world.
As I said massive fraud at work my bet is in a year people will be going to jail for having taken part in the fraud.

Just a little tidbit for your homework.
Carboniferous Period

Quote:
Average global temperatures in the Early Carboniferous Period were hot- approximately 20° C (68° F). However, cooling during the Middle Carboniferous reduced average global temperatures to about 12° C (54° F). As shown on the chart below, this is comparable to the average global temperature on Earth today!

Similarly, atmospheric concentrations of carbon dioxide (CO2) in the Early Carboniferous Period were approximately 1500 ppm (parts per million), but by the Middle Carboniferous had declined to about 350 ppm — comparable to average CO2 concentrations today!

Earth’s atmosphere today contains about 380 ppm CO2 (0.038%). Compared to former geologic times, our present atmosphere, like the Late Carboniferous atmosphere, is CO2- impoverished! In the last 600 million years of Earth’s history only the Carboniferous Period and our present age, the Quaternary Period, have witnessed CO2 levels less than 400 ppm.

Would you agree that modern mankind was not around before dinosaurs or were there cars driving around spewing Carbon Dioxide?
How does one account for the average temps of 58-70 degrees and the much much higher carbon dioxide levels?

Are you claiming you were censured? Or your post simply

did not appear?

I know immediately when my posts get lost, and I assume the same is true for you. I usually know why also. I also know I can post certain type posts like a post saying 'your having trouble'. No such post came from you! So I don’t understand your excuse. Especially since you have not posted your Evidence Argument and its completion, even yet. As to your current last post I do not agree with the post at all. It does not deal with the debate, so it and your questions can wait.

Go ahead and finish your argument of the debate.

Saying everytime I post my posts have a pop up message

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did not appear?

I know immediately when my posts get lost, and I assume the same is true for you. I usually know why also. I also know I can post certain type posts like a post saying 'your having trouble'. No such post came from you! So I don’t understand your excuse. Especially since you have not posted your Evidence Argument and its completion, even yet. As to your current last post I do not agree with the post at all. It does not deal with the debate, so it and your questions can wait.

Go ahead and finish your argument of the debate.

The pop up says my post must be reviewed by a moderator.
90% of my posts that I have put work and effort into never appear when I am addressing you commenting on Islam or the POTUS.
wHAT’S BAD IS WHEN I have not attempted to insult what you have posted it wouldn’t bother me if I was simply being a troll.

ISLAM IS OFF TARGET IN THE DEBATE!

Read your framed question! And stick to the issue or we will fold up the tent.

Actually that was a poorly worded post on my part.

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Read your framed question! And stick to the issue or we will fold up the tent.

I meant certain topics are disallowed when posting.
Addressing you at times.
Posts on Islam painting it in the negative light some Islamics deserve.
Most posts on Barry O.
Will this post see the light of day?